Agent Orange in Thailand

I am trying to locate anyone that worked as a Jet Engine Mechanic at Udorn RTAFB . I need photos of the test cell and trim pad. I was there from 1971-1972. I have discovered that Agent Orange was used around the perimeter during this time frame. I need to establish the proximaty of the perimeter to these facilities.

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I represent a Vietnam era veteran who was stationed in Thailand. He has many of the symptoms of agent orange exposure, but since he was in Thailand his benefits were denied. I'm looking for anyone with knowledge of Agent Orange use around NKP.
Thank you,
Paul Epstein

What symptoms is he having? I have some also including Ischemic Heart Disease. I've submitted a claim and am gathering data. I may be able to help, but I'm just starting.

Need anything helpful about AO exposure at NKP 69 70

To my knowledge, the VA is still denying claims for veterans who served on bases in Thailand. I have been diagnosed with Type II Diabetes, IHD (with bypass surgery), and prostate issues. My claim along with what I consider to be evidence in support of my claim in in the appeal status. I worked as an Env Sys Tech(Udorn RTAFB-70 thru 71)... it kept me on the trim pad and/or on the perimenter. I also performed foot patrol on the perimeter as a Security Police Augmentee. I have been waiting for an answer from VA for almost four(4) years. Time is winding down on VN Era vets. If anything new develops for us, please post it or send it directly. Right now... we have our hands tied by the VA's refusal to recognize all of us who served so diligently.

Good luck.

If you can find anyone who served with you, please contact them. You can find info on Udorn on many websites. You need to really search, and it takes time to look at all the websites. Get some help, and if you were a Security Police agumentee, there should be a record of that in your files. You can order a copy of your file from the St. Louis VA archives. Find any photos you may have, and take a close look at all of them. Digitize your negs, and enlarge the photos and take a close look at all of them for Agent Orange use.

I obtained a copy of my file from St Louis and there was no records of my security augmentee duty. Other sites report that you had to be TDY to augmentee for more than 89 days before they would create a record of your augmentee duty. Morning reports were not kept for 1970. The site has a rooster of augmentees and i am on that list and this is probably the strongest evidence i have for my direct exposure at the perimeter. I dont know how my name got on that list and the VSPA administrator/historian searched his paper files but could not find my name ...still a mystery as to how i got on that list.

I have the same problem with no records of my 30 day augmentee duty in 1971.

I also was and augmentee on security patrol but can't find any records or proof. I served from 1967 -1968.any info would be helpful

Udorn RTAFB, View record [ ID: 2705 ]
LAST-FIRST Simmons, Carl M.
Bases and Squadrons UD, 432nd SPS
Year(s) 1970-1971
K9 Name #
ID 2705
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Carl, I found your name on the augmentee list and pasted above. I hope this helps.

Have you had any luck proving agent orange/herbicides in Thailand? My husband was at several bases from 1968-1969

We were the first F-4E squadron to SEA from Eglin AFB. I have had many health problems and think it could be Agent Orange Related.

I also was there 72 and 73/74 have you had any luck?

I was stationed at Utapo air base from 1967 to 1968,working on the flight line as a food service cook,when ther was an alert
we were sent out on the base perimeter in the jungle for security with a flashlight and a whistle every other man had a radio we were 50 yards apart. If anyone was station there during that time please contact me as the VA is denying my claim for disability for my condition

I also was involved in the same alert. I must have been an "every other man" because I didn't have a radio. As I remember it was Sept 2, 1968. I am working with an attorney appealing a VA decision. What do you remember about the alert and being placed on the base perimeter? What is your email? Mine is

Patrick Jordan

I was stationed on U-tapaio 67/68, but left a few days before the alert. I was assigned to the A & E supply point. Which was on the flight line . My barracks was on the perimeter of the base over by the airmans club. This past week I received a 60% disability rating for Ischemic heart disease caused by agent orange. My medical records showed me going to sick call 3 times with chest pains and and going to sick call for dizziness. I hope this could help you with your claim. Let me know if I can help further

Msgt Mckinnon Ret, I also have problems with the VA proving exposure to AO at NKP Thailand 1969, Please forward any info you might, If I find anything at all helpful I will forward it to you

I was stationed at NamPhong about 60 miles from Udorn a Marine installation in 72-73, the perimator was sprayed with a orange/rust colored spray from a c-130 about 100 yds from our hut, as we watched. I need to know if this was agent orange as I have several of the health problems. I'M pretty sure it was orange, even if they don't admit to it.

I was at Nam Phong 72-73 with Special Forces training Cambodians. Our camp was directly adjacent to the Marine Airbase. I do remember some spraying. I was recently diagnosed with Ischemic Heart Disease after a heart attack. I have submitted a claim to the VA, but currently they are only looking at MP – Security types. We had none of those. We were not a regular Army Installation.

Looking for information on agent orange in Thailand.

Look on Youtube and search for Bob Hope Christmas special 1972-73. You will see your base on that segment of that special. Copy that segment and use it on your VA claim. The place you can tell was cleared using Agent Orange. I do not know where the base was located at, but if the base was in the South of Thailand, the rainfall and jungle was real heavy there.

I was at Nam Phong 72-73 with Special Forces training Cambodians. Our camp was directly adjacent to the Marine Airbase. I do remember some spraying. I was recently diagnosed with Ischemic Heart Disease after a heart attack. I have submitted a claim to the VA, but currently they are only looking at MP – Security types. We had none of those. We were not a regular Army Installation.

Looking for information on agent orange in Thailand.

You can find video of Nam Phong on Youtube. Search for Bob Hope Christmas show 1972 and 1973. There you will see about a 10 second clip of the base, and other shots. Get a copy of the segment of that show to use for your VA claim.

I have been noticing alot of us veterans with Ischemic Heart Disease after being exposed to agent orange and the VA deniese our claims. Maybe were going about it all wrong. Maybe we need to all join together and get someone like keller and keller and fill a class action law suit against the government for benefits. At the very least we would let them know we are not going to take it any more. We served proudly now they can serve us proudly and hold up their end of the bargain. I was at Korat 72-73.

Per May 2010 VA memo. VA only well approve claims for Hericides NOT , agent orange. You have had to work on or near the base perimeter to be approved. Your MOS career field number is really important proving you worked near the perimeter. Any pictures of you near the perimeter will help along with buddy letters. Look up Kurt Priessmam msgt on interent for more info on winning a claim.

I was station in Thailand for five month in late 64 and early 65 December 64 to mid January 65 I was at Korat and then sent to Don Muang for four months, I have also had prostate cancer and the doctors tell me I have a heart mumer > I have tried to get my records of the time spend in Thailand and for some strange reason they can not be located..... Would any one have any suggestion as how I might locate these records ?

I was station in Korat Thailand in 63-65 I was in the 207th Signal Co.
We would set up Microwave site though out Thailand.
On going to Thailand we had to stop off in Vienam for 3 hours and I had boots on the ground but I can't find my traveling records as to how I got there.
I have a claim in for Agent Orange exposure, Diabetes Type 2, and heart Problems.
I was denied at first and then appeal and waiting notification.
We had to do guard duty around the RTAB airforce base.

I kind of had the same problem. If you were moving around on tdy orders. They are not part of your permenant military records.......the trick is to have a VA Rep or get hold of the us national accounting and finance center. They are in Indianapolis in. They have pay stubs and history going back to the civil war......e Mail or contact them to get the forms.....go to a VA. Services. They will do it for you. Jim laflin

Test Cell/ Trim pads were near the perimeters. Their are pictures of these on the web ,look under the many Udorn web sites on the net. see VA CP bulletin 2010 page 3 for what VA requires for a claim in Thailand . Use herbicides as a claim ,, as Agent Orange was NOT used in Thailand per VA. They will turn you down ,if you can not prove you worked near the perimeters or you claim AO. Do your homework before you apply for benefits. Check the USAF CHECO Thailand Report, and other reports on the Web. Good luck

Fellow Thailand Vets.
You must show how close you job or living area was near the parimeter of the base. If you can find any photos of your base from 40 plus years ago. Please study them, have the negs converted to digital and submit a copy with your VA claim. Also the Marine base in Thailand can be found on Youtube if you look at the 1972 or 1973 Bob Hope Christmas show. The Hope Show shows Nam Phong for about 10 seconds at the most. You can tell from the video that Agent Orange was used to clear the land at Nam Phong, it was just one large mud pit.
Good luck to all of you.
Bruce Kent
Utapao '72-'73

Hi, I am a widow of a AF vet, he was at U-tapao May 69 to May 70. He passed away after 2 heart attacks at 51yr of age less than 10 yr. after retiring, need help in proving agent Orange was sprayed. I have a pic of him shirtless, standing on truck near bomb dumps which was near the perimeter. I need help in finding out what was sprayed. Lois

where can you find maps of your base ,like don muang AFB

I too was at UT many times First TDY was a ferry in from Davis-Monthan,Tucson,AZ(Steve)Swapping out The DC130 "A" model with an "E", 1971, in 72 I was there for 89 days in 73 for 6Mos. in 74 for 6Mos. in 75 for 89 days just before the fall of Saigon. I feel everyone living, working and playing was exposed to some type of agent and you didn't have to be in the SPS to have been around it. At the age of 56 I had a Heart attack, Triple Bypass One Stent in 2007, 2009 Two Stents, 2011 Angoplasty yes I filed a claim and as stands I've been stone walled for lack of evidence, but I'm working harder to get what I need Thanks to groups like this!! I just relized the hooch area close to the perimeter and Flightline On the 135 side, we also traveled the perimeter road up to the hill top chow hall, I was working on the flight line but was released just before the Zapper attack! Yes we all need to stand together and but the V.A. on notice

My husband who was stationed @ U-Tapao from 12/70 - 6/71. He passed away from 2 of the cancers on list CLL & Non Hodgkins Lymphoma.
Am trying to figure out what exactly is perimeter of base?
How do you know where someone lived while on base?
What were the general paths walked on through base ?

I do have a bunch of his papers. He was a communications officer (Captain) working out of #27 on U-Tapao map.
He has flight records for the B-52 & C125 w/ names & SS#'s

Any help would be appreciated


RASMy post to you seems to have disappeared. My husband was at Utapao in 1973. he was also stationed at Udorn from 1968-1969 and during the attack on the base. He was then again stationed at Udorn in 1971-1972. He worked in air craft maintenance on the flight line near the perimeter of the base. He had been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. Please feel free to contact us.


Hi Nancy,

I to am researching information regarding the perimeter of U-Tapao. I have a friend that was there working as a aircraft mechanic on the flightline and other locations, so I am looking for information on how far the perimeter was from the flightline, as well as their barracks.

Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Nancy!


I was stationed at Udorn RTAFB in 1968-1969 as a jet engine mechanic. I had an 8 man crew that worked flight line, trim pad at the remote edge of the base. In 2004 I was discovered to have a grapefruit sized tumor in my left kidney and it was removed. In 2012 I was discovered to have prostate cancer and was advised to put in an agent orange claim by the VA Dr. I also was sent to Laos to repair a downed aircraft and have no information about agent orange on that base. I received notice that my claim was denied as I have no way of showing exposure. Any help or advice would be very helpful. I am 50% disabled at the present time due to a spinal fusion in 1970 after my return from Thailand and hearing loss.

RASMy husband was stationed at Udorn in 1968, 1969 and again 1973-1974. He was also at Tapao. He was in the Air Force and worked as an Air Craft Mechanic. He has been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. He has also suffered some level of hearing loss related to his job. I don't know how much help can be offered but please feel free to email.


RASmy husband was at Udorn from 04/1968 to 011/1968. And he was assigned again in 1971-72. He worked in air craft maintain on the flight line near the perimeter of the base. He has been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. Please feel free to contact us.


Can you share which doctor said file AO claim?


My name is Peter, and I'm never going to grow up.

My name is Peter, and I'm never going to grow up.

I was at UBON from Dec 1972 to Dec 1973. I worked in the AGE minor maintenance department and also delivered bomb lifts to the Specter side of base. I have developed Multiple Myloma. If anyone has pictures of Ubon that might help me with proximity to perimeter I would be Grateful.

If you still need a map/base layout, please email me or post a reply. I have several photos showing this, but, IMHO, the Specter parking area was a significant distance from the perimeter, you may need more than that.

It's sad, but it seems that almost everyone there has developed either Ischemic Heart Disease or Cancer, or both.


My name is Peter, and I'm never going to grow up.

My name is Peter, and I'm never going to grow up.


Is this a map of U-Tapoa? My husband was in mun. maint. delivered bombs to the aircraft. was told by VA he was not, on/in/near perimeter. Also where was the Hutches they lived in? thanks for any help. Lois

Yes Peter if you could send a map or pictures they my be helpful. My email is thank you very much

if you have a map or can tell me where to find one let me know. e-mail me

I was TDY at Nam Phong working on the flight line and next to large jet fuel bladders. Everywhere I looked I saw orange/brown foliage. I also drove the bus that took Bob Hope, Red Fox, the gold diggers group and the rest of the show to the show area. I tried to file a claim with the VA hospital but was told that if I didn't have my TDY orders I couldn't file. Really? Who keeps those. I have contacted the only person I could find that was there with me and he didn't keep them either. Is there anyone that can tell me how to get a copy of them. I requested my records from that date but there is no mention of my TDY. My name I Michael Pickard and was at Nam Phong from Nov 72 - Feb 73. During that time I also was loaned out to Takli air base for 2 weeks to help load up equipment on C5 cargo planes. If you were at Nam Phong at that time either ASAF or part of the Marines stationed with us next to the jet fuel bladders and flight line please contact me.

I was stationed at Udorn 1970-1971. I was an Inertial Nav Repairman in the 432nd AMS. Worked on F-4s.
I have heart disease, prostate cancer. I wear a urostomy appliance. I want to tell you all something
and this is no BS. All initial Thailand claims except Security Policemen are DENIED. then---------
YOU MUST HIRE AN ATTORNEY IF YOU WANT TO WIN THE APPEAL. Don't believe anything else and good luck.

I am new this. I am finding so much info that I am confused. I was stationed at Don Muang from dec 66 to dec 67. I was Air Police for 2 months and transfered to Motor Pool. I never wanted to be in air police. My background was electronics. The data I have collected says Don Muang was sprayed as were the other bases I traveled to. Also Green Hill radar site. I have coronary heart disease and have had it for 5 years. I have four stints going to my heart. I think I have enough info, all I need is a map of the base which shows the location of the barracks in regards to the airport. We were located off site in the jungle. If anyones where I can get maps, let me know. Tanks and good to everyone.

Need help. It has been over 4 yrs since I filed my claim with the VA.
I have Ischemic heart disease. Been treated for prostate cancer and been diagnosed with pre-diabetes.
I served in the Air Force and was stationed at Eglin AFB (69-70) and Ubon RTAFB (70-71).
They have told me I have to prove that I went to the bomb dump and that I worked near the perimeter while stationed at Ubon.
Also no records have been sent by the DOD even though they supposedly requested them.
Any help or information would be appreciated.

Dear Sir, Have you ordered your military file? please let me know if you need direction.. ordering your military file would give you copies of your annual performance reviews... on those .. you should see some of your work duties.. and also you may want to try to obtain a map of the base.. so you can number areas of the base where you worked.. and then list what you did there..

I contacted the Air Force Research agency for a copy of base maps for Takhli where my Daddy was... this helped and i shared them with others... i will be happy to help you more.. Also, if you can recall anyone you were stationed with.. I have searched the free site entered in a name and searched and was successful for some Veterans in finding buddies.. Buddy statements are a great way to prove your work duties...and where you would have had to have performed them on the base.

susie -

Susie, proud daughter of a Veteran

My husband was stationed at Camp Samae San Sattahip Thailand 68-69 and died almost 3 years ago with Diabetes and many other illness but I am looking for anyone that might have been there when he was. As just about everyone else that was in Thailand of course my claim has been denied because he was an Equipment Storage Specialist and not Military Police. He had many of the diseases on the presumptive list but I am still being turned down and need a Buddy Statement. I have been doing a lot of research and all of you Vietnam Veterans have my utmost respect. I would greatly appreciate any help. Thanks

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