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Argument in favor of Reinstating the Pledge of Allegiance in Schools

What a simple pledge; so small, so easy to remember. For much of US history every school day from coast to coast started with the Pledge of Allegiance and the Lord's Prayer or a moment of silent prayer.

These simple routines seem old-fashioned by our modern, more enlightened culture. How could we force religion or "GASP!!" patriotism on innocent minds like that?

Well, I can't speak to the logic behind instilling values in children through the school system. I can tell you there is certainly a difference in the students from my day and the children graduating over the past thirty years.

We never had school shootings in those days. Neither did we have rampant teen pregnancies like they do now.

Sure girls did get pregnant in small numbers in every era. The difference is the father stepped up and took responsibility for the woman and child. More often than not they got married.

Why would such a simple pledge have an impact on society? What difference can saying a few lines each morning have on children?

The answer is as simple as the question; it taught us that we were the center of the universe.

By saying the Pledge of Allegiance we acknowledged that we were citizens of the United States.

We declared that we owed loyalty, fidelity and service to our nation.

Most importantly, through school prayer and the pledge of Allegiance, we were reminded that we are a part of a larger community; that being a nation and a faith. There is certainly value in acknowledging our civic responsibilities.

This isn't the place to debate school prayer; too many people argue about that already.

I feel that a lot of the problems we see in school today are traceable back to the end of the Pledge of Allegiance. I’ve already pointed out two of the effects; pregnancy and school violence.

It could be argued that many other social ills derive from this failure. We have had difficulty in recruiting young people willing to serve in the military.

No, this isn’t because of Bush or the Iraqi/Afghanistan Wars. Recruiting numbers were low in the nineties after Clinton came into office. When the Commander in Chief refused to serve, how can he then inspire youth to heed the call to duty?

No, like many of his generation, he valued his life more than the existence of his nation. He demanded rights and freedom but was unwilling to pay the price for it.

Perhaps he would have been a different person had he learned the Pledge of Allegiance in his youth. Perhaps the country would have been a different place under his leadership.

A simple set of declarative phrases – spoken clearly and in unison – a room full of citizens with hand over heart – telling the walls and the world that they were a part of a great tradition begun in 1776 and not yet ending with them.

Perhaps we can already see the end . . . or we could put the Pledge of Allegiance back in schools . . .in ENGLISH!

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Pledge of Allegiance

Enough! Why are we spitting in the faces of the Forefathers? Why are we being disrespectful of the ones who have suffered and died for us? Why are we being biligerant towards the ones who keep us safe and free? They willingly and freely go to war and sometimes do not return. Others return with physical or emotional or mental ailments that they would not have had, if they had not served their country. Our country is not only a place to live. Our country is you, your loved ones, me and my loved ones. If we did not have the military that we have, we would be constantly invaded. Look at the countries that do not have a strong military or do not have a military at all. They are constanlty fleeing; females ten years and older being gang raped; men, women and children murdered; young men forced to fight and when there is opposition, they kill everyone in the village. There is rampant starvation and sickness. Yes, we have problems too with housing, medical care, education and unemployment, etc. But, we do not live in constant fear every waking moment and sleep in terror of being attacked. Since 911, we all are more cautious, but we have a good military. Let us show them how proud we are of them and our country by proudly saying the Pledge of Alligiance and singing our National Anthemn.

I agree the Pledge should be used more often in schools

I think this pledge binds the students together within the framework of nationalism. I see nothing wrong with this. We are, after all, a nation, different from other nations. Most of the proudest people I see reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, are newly made citizens. I would love to see that kind of pride exhibited in the schools. Allegiance is not a dirty word. Here is the general definition of our Pledge of Allegiance:

An oath of loyalty to the U.S. flag and the nation it represents. The pledge is believed to have been the idea of an editor of “The Youth's Companion, ” a children's magazine. By proclamation of President Benjamin Harrison, the pledge was first recited on October 12, 1892, and after some rewording was officially adopted on Flag Day, June 14, 1924. The words “under God” were added in 1954. The pledge now reads:

“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands: one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

While reciting the pledge of allegiance, citizens stand at attention or place the right hand over the heart. Men should remove their hats, and military personnel in uniform face the flag and give the military salute.

It's interesting to note that the world "Under God" were not put in until 1954. We could argue that the words, "Under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all' presupposes that our allegiance is bound only as long as these words are true, or serve as guidelines regulating the requirements that bind us to this allegiance. If, under any circumstance, these guidelines are severed or broken, we are not bound by this allegiance. The allegiance, does not state that we are bound under the circumstances, "... America right or wrong...", or that we are not allowed to criticize our government or demand change.

I believe it is a national, assertion of fellowship, with all those in our nation who desire freedom and liberty and the desire that such liberty and freedom be made available for all nations on this earth, hence the words, "...for all...".

After all, if our flag were not important, it would not be burned by so many people in other countries. It is important.

The idea that I can trust you to support me in defending this flag and the notions that it represents is also important. I need to know that you are allied with me in this effort, and that your allegiance can be depended upon. I need, a ritual, that bonds us together in that allegiance, like a handshake bonds the honor two people together. The Pledge of Allegiance is that ritual.

While religion has the power to bind people together, notions of liberty, freedom and justice bind all people together without the need for religion. Without freedom, there can be no freedom of religion. Without liberty, there can be no expression of religion. Without justice, there can be no notion of, freedom of the liberty to express ones religious views. Therefore, I see no need for the worlds "....under God..." to be included in this pledge.

John Ray aka ~rexrino

Good response, John

While I respect your opinion, I don't necessarily agree. I see the nation as being a country with deep, moral roots based on Judeo-Christian beliefs. So many of the people who shaped our country were overtly Christian. The fact that historical revisionists are trying to change that makes no difference to me.

I also know that Jews have helped our country from its beginning. A no-interest loan kept Washington's army going. They also built schools for Blacks throughout the South when the states and the federal governments had no interest in doing the job.

I also know that our country suffers EVERYTIME it tries to turn its back on God. How many Katrinas, how many natural disasters and lives lost will it take to wake people up? I'm not willing to find out.

I proudly say "UNDER GOD" every time, without hesitation. If you or anyone else has a problem with it, well, that's what freedom is all about. Don't say it, plug your ears or stay home. I will continue to thank God that He lets me live in this great country as long as I have breath in my body.

Thank you Morgan.

Mr. Morgan, the first Document, the Declaration of Independence states that God is a creator, not a Judeo-Christian entity. I think the forefathers were open minded about the concept of God and my reading of history bears this out.

The Many people who shaped our country, were not congressmen, senators, or the forefathers. They were the common people who inhabited the land. They were a collection of Blacks, with their tribal religions, Whites, with their Jewish, Christian, Pagan, Atheist inclinations, and a mixture of Godless people. And, let's not forget the Natural Citizens of America, the American Indians, with their spiritual understandings and beliefs. These were the people of America, who shaped the nation.

If you read the history of the phrase, "Under God," you find out that it was put in during a time of great disharmony within our nation. The idea of "all men are created equal". was being fought against by a great majority of the white population. They cemented themselves closer to God and demanded that the Phrase "under God" be added to give them a sense of reverence for their cause. So it was evil people who wanted this added. It was not so in the beginning. Should we trust Evil people? Don't Christian writings say that Satan can present himself as an angel of Light?

Our flag and our seals, which appear on many of our documents, are symbols of men. Not God. We should render unto God, the things that are God's, and unto men, the things that belong to men.

True American patriotism, demands that you throw away the commandments of God and kill your enemy, not embrace him with a kiss on the check, or turn to him the other cheek. To me, as an American Warrior, I think it is the highest form of blasphemy to mingle the works of God with the works of men. My prayers to God when I was in the foxhole was that he take away my lust for battle and the lust in my enemy as well.

I think God and Country are two separate things and should not be mingled together because it affronts the idea of freedom of religion and a pure, sinless God. It opens the door way for one religion or another to claim that God is on their side when God is on no side of sinful men. It creates the idea that God supports their efforts to demean and diminish the lot of other men. That is the reason the phrase "under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance, to support their evil efforts.

I pledge allegiance to my fellow men, who carry the flag of our nation --not to God -- regardless of their religion, as long as they support the ideals of freedom and liberty for all.

A simple, quiet, personal amen is all that needed to be added to the pledge to amount to the same thing in the minds of those freedom, liberty minded; flag touting American, Judeo-Christians. They didn't have to taint the whole thing by adding something that did not belong there. What if the originators had thoughts similar to mine?

Here are the real thoughts of the Baptist Minister, Francis Bellamy, who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance. No where in there is the idea of "Under God":

"...Bellamy commented on his thoughts as he created the pledge, and his reasons for choosing the careful wording:

"It began as an intensive communing with salient points of our national history, from the Declaration of Independence onwards; with the makings of the Constitution... with the meaning of the Civil War; with the aspiration of the people...
"The true reason for allegiance to the Flag is the 'republic for which it stands'. ...And what does that vast thing, the Republic mean? It is the concise political word for the Nation - the One Nation which the Civil War was fought to prove. To make that One Nation idea clear, we must specify that it is indivisible, as Webster and Lincoln used to repeat in their great speeches. And its future?
"Just here arose the temptation of the historic slogan of the French Revolution which meant so much to Jefferson and his friends, 'Liberty, equality, fraternity'. No, that would be too fanciful, too many thousands of years off in realization. But we as a nation do stand square on the doctrine of liberty and justice for all..." --Wikipedia.

Because he was intent on "...careful working...". and because he was a Judeo-Christin Minister, we can be sure he thought long and hard about whether or not a phrase such as; "...under God", should have been added.

Mr Morgan, when I look back at the war I fought in, and the deeds I saw done by Christian men, I cannot agree with your statement, "...I see the nation as being a country with deep, moral roots based on Judeo-Christian beliefs..."

I think those roots are shallow at best, not necessarily made of Judeo-Christian beliefs and of course, I don't like to mix God with the sinful activities of men.

However, I do respect your opinion; and, even though I'm not a Judeo-Christian, I will offer my life on the alter of war to protect your freedom and liberty to have your opinion. Long live our country and the ideals it represents.

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