More Copayments for TRICARE For Life
Submitted by Steve on 4 February 2009 - 12:59pm.
Thanks to Morgan Johnson for this info:
If you are a military retiree or know one personally, this is important.
I dare you to really read this and not care.
Our new president and congress has set as a goal to greatly reduce the use of Medical facilities by military retirees. No, I didn't hear this from Rush Limbaugh. I read it in a congressional document detailing how they plan to help retirees understand the cost of medical care. Follow the embedded link in this document and search "TFL"; you will be surprised from the very first paragraph what the Democratic government thinks of us. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/78xx/doc7821/02-23-BudgetOptions.pdf
You see, these pinheads in Washington seem to think that retirees like me take health care for granted; that we have nothing else to do but sit around getting frivolous treatment at government expense just for our own entertainment. This plan is to raise our costs so that we will be encouraged to take our business elsewhere. Military retirees are officially classified as "a burden on society." Spending twenty years plus of our lives in the service of our nation is no longer worthy of gratitude - unless those years are spent being pampered in Washington, D.C. The Democrats in Congress give better medical benefits to illegal aliens than they do for our veterans - and they don't have to pay anything! For this we should all be ashamed.
Morgan, Jr.
TRICARE for Life's Future:
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:14:10 -0800
I received this through a "Fwd" and wanted to share it with all who use TFL as a supplemental insurance to Medicare. It came as quite a shock to me.
This is for real. The heavy assault has begun on Veterans'/Retirees'
benefits to pay for other programs. The word on the street is that
these indeed are a high priority of the Obama administration. The one
most of interest to Retired Military is in Article 189. If approved by
Congress the first assault wave would hit the beaches in 2011 and would
hit hard. It would initiate cost sharing to require retirees to pay the
first $525 of medical cost and 50% of the next $4,725 for a first year
cost of $2,888 per person. It would be indexed to increase with
inflation. A reason given for this action (for PR effect) is "overuse by Retirees."
For those of you who are covered by TFL you will want to pay attention
to what BG Bob Clements has surfaced about the future of TFL.
If you know of anyone who is Retired Military, please forward this on to
them.
I don't know how many of you partake of the Tricare for Life program
but here is a very interesting note on the subject. Seems as though our
President Elect has placed a priority on cutting it out of the budget as
a means to provide funding for those things he promised during the
campaign.
In any case, on page 189 of the Congressional Budget Office report, see
the note below on how to get to that spot, there is a strong
recommendation to eventually eliminate the program as it is too
expensive. I would ask that you contact your elected officials and
register your strong opposition to the elimination of this program.
Just another move to slight those of us who dedicated much of our adult
lives to the defense of our country. Thanks for listening.
Heads-up from BG Bob Clements, USAF Ret (P38 Bob) The following has been
added to the Congressional Budget Office Web Site http://www.cbo.gov/
a. Budget, Options, Volume 1: Health Care
http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=9925
For those who have never opened one of these web sites from OMB :
1. double click on the above URL
2. click on PDF
3. click on the binoculars
4. do a search for TFL
"Now here it is folks and I will guarantee if you sit around on your
behind and do nothing about it as they bring these options forward this
coming year, you will lose one of the best healthcare benefits that the
Medicare eligible retired military have. It is short of the promises
made that we fought so hard for back in the late 90s and early 2000s but
it is still the best healthcare program that anyone in the United States
has, bar none.
People who are professionals always look for the channel of least
resistance when it comes to cutting money out of the Federal and DOD
budget. I can tell you this straight on, military retirees are one of
those channels of least resistance noted for sitting around, doing nothing,
and waiting for ole Joe to do it for them. You had better wake up. Your
medical benefits are prime target. If you lose them, you have nobody to
blame but yourself! Let me repeat that . . . you have nobody to blame but
yourself!
The way to secure your benefits is to write to your members of Congress
and to keep writing and writing and writing. ONCE IS NOT ENOUGH!! Keep
repeating the above statement until you are blue in the face.
Now I'm going to make one more statement to all of you younger people
out there who are not yet eligible for Tricare for Life. HEALTH CARE
WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME THE DOMINATING FACTOR IN YOUR LIFE!
Remember that! It will impact you big time with the utmost in cruelty
unless you are fortunate enough to die from a heart attack . . . or get
run over by a truck.
Now, I am going to attach AGAIN exactly what OMB has in store for
military retirees using TFL. This source is directly from OMB and is not
something that I have dreamed up. They are telling you exactly what they
are going to do with your benefits. If you do nothing, this is what you
will get.
The service organizations are aware of this and will put up a fight but,
they will need your help and can't do it by themselves.
I hope this makes it clear as to what you can expect if you do nothing.
To show you how stupid these professionals can be at times, if you will
read the attached document closely you will see that in spite of the
MTFs (Military Treatment Facility) need to get patients back to keep
their doctors busy and the hospitals from going to clinic status, these
people from OMB would employ a means to keep retirees from using MTF
facilities by charging them a fee for services. How dumb can you get.
Even if you are an Obama lover and believe that change cometh, TFL
option from OMB will not go away. They need the money they spend on you
for other programs for people who produce nothing but votes to keep their
boss in office!
A footnote: BG Bob Clement is known with affection as"P38bob". He flew
P38s in WWII. He was one of the stalwart warriors that led effectively
from the front when the hard battles were being fought to bring Tricare
for Life to reality. I was honored and pleased to be a player in that
effort by following P38 Bob's lead. (in those days I was known as
MilVet99)
MilVets: it looks like we will again be confronted by the 'attack of the
beancounters' who, by and large, wouldn't know (and probably never will
know) genuine unselfish service to our country and are solely motivated
by crunching numbers so that those numbers will reflect favorably on
their bosses and their boss's causes. They have no thought to the havoc
they would cause . . . In many cases the loss of any amount of TFL
benefits would be a an insurmountable hardship and to some it would truly
be a death sentence!
It is well that we gear up for the fight now. As P38Bob says, we must
write, write, write and write. Once is not enough! In time I will be
preparing letters for your use in writing to your elected officials and
submitting them to the TREA Membership, and to others who may want to
join the fight.
Them Beancounters haven't seen anything until they've seen a united and
angered group of MilVets. Lets do it and git 'er done!!!!! Your
comments and inquiries are welcome.
Fred Langston, President (2008), Legislative Affairs Chair, Greater San
Diego Chapter 128, The Retired Enlisted Association (TREA),
fglangston [at] yahoo [dot] com
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Veteran's Health Care & BG Bob Clements
This is the junk currently being circulated by email starting back in January 2009. While it is important to speak out in support of medical care for veterans, it is also important to get the facts right so your comments are not quickly ignored or seen as uninformed.
The CBO report in question is not pending legislation. The CBO does not write nor propose legislation. They examine issues and options with a view towards budget impact. This particular report was published in December 2008, prior to Obama even taking office. Before you read anything in the report, you should read both the Preface (page 5-6) and the Introduction starting on page 15. It is also a report prepared every two years.
For those that want to read the most recent report from the CBO, it is worth reading, but again is only an examination of options, not pending legislation. However, it does give DoD's proposal for the new budget. This report was published in June 2009.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10261/toc.html
However, rather than just reading CBO reports, you would be better served by also reading what is actually being worked on in various Congressional committees. You want to sound informed, not like a loose cannon.
What I have found before committees are generally positive proposals that expand and increase benefits, not cut them. There has been a proposal floating around for a few years to increase Tricare enrollment fees. As near as I can determine it is still being pushed aside, but is well worth watching.
At the end of the day, this gibberish looks primarily like an effort to bash President Obama, rather than any real effort to improve or protect veteran’s health care benefits. After all, the only negative items in the proposed DoD budget for 2009 regarding veteran’s health care were axed by the President at the outset, before ever going to Congress. The same proposals that went forward during the Bush Administration in the 2007 and 2008 Budgets, that got the ax in Congress.
Now then, who is really lying on this issue?
Not a Lie - Tricare Fees were Increased - Effective 1 Oct
It's not a lie, Tricare fees were increased, effective 1 Oct 09. Congress now plans to repeal the increases - only because of complaints from veterans and veterans' organizations!
The Army Times reports that Congress plans to repeal the recent TRICARE fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department through a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill.
Acting on complaints from a variety of military associations, who accused the Defense Department of reneging on a promise of a one-year moratorium on any increases in out-of-pocket patient costs, negotiators writing the final defense policy bill included a provision, retroactive to Oct. 1, prohibiting any TRICARE fee increases.
The associations had taken issue with a $110-a-day increase in inpatient hospitalization charges for military retirees and their families using TRICARE Standard and with a $1 a day increase in inpatient charges for active-duty families.
The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.
The fee repeal included in the 2010 defense bill will not take effect until the bill passes Congress and is signed into law by President Obama, which could take several weeks at the soonest.
In the meantime, anyone charged the higher fees can expect a refund once the bill becomes law, according to congressional aides who worked on the provision.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_10070...
Tricare for Life
You are right that this info was floating around the internet since January 2009, 'cause that's about when it was posted (Feb to be exact). And no where in the post does it say that the CBO report in question is pending legislation. It is important to speak out in support of medical care for veterans, and it is also important to get your facts right so you are not quickly ignored or seen as uninformed.
If, as you say, the only negative items in the proposed DoD budget for 2009 regarding veteran’s health care were axed by the President at the outset, before ever going to Congress, maybe it was because of the outcry from military retirees and veterans groups?
And why would you accuse veterans of lying on this issue? All they have done is bring it to light that the CBO recommends higher Tricare fees and that we should be contacting our representatives to fight those increase in fees.
I think you're a little too paranoid, coming about six months late to the party, and arguing, accusing, and agreeing all at the same time.
"overuse by retirees"
"Overuse by retirees"
*scratches head*
Huh???
Okay, let me through this bit by bit so I have it straight:
All through our military careers we are promised "free lifetime medical care for ourselves and our eligible dependants" at a regionasl mtf or thrugh our private practitioners via TriCare or Tricare For Life, for which we pay a quarterly premium of $115.00 (which I do not mind really, for a bill fi'teen it's good coverage... but that's not the point). To me that's 'Breech of Promise'.
So retired USAF Col Day (do I have the name right here?)takes the case up and pursues it in a suit to the US Supreme Court which renders a ruling "yes, you WERE promised "free lifetime medical care for yourselves and your eligible dependants" but added the caveat "however the military was not authorized to make such a promise".
*scratches head*
Huh???
So our elected Congressmen and women in a cost cutting move laterally transfer cognizance for retiree medical care to the US Postal Service on the premise that "most of them work there anyway" and the USPS (remember, these are the people who lose your Xmas cards to m om!) instantly assumes it's another cash cow to play with and squander the resources allocated for retiree medical care.
And now we are told we must pay thousands annually because we are overusing what we're paying for which was promised to us for free?
*scratches head*
Huh???
Remind me again why I devoted 20 years of my life to the military, sworn to defend and protect the US Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic? This malfeasance by the gov't added on top of malfeasance by the Divorce Industrial Complex which... in my case... summarily labeled me a 'psychotic trained killer' (I was a freakin fleet sailor fuhcrissake) and ejected me from my childrens lives on the basis of lies (which were immediately and irrefutably proved to be lies) by an embitter divorcing mother who discovered the "I HAVE THE POWER!!!" of False Accusations and promptly employed this MWD of Divorce to ensure she was given most of our assets, most of my paycheck and of course full and complete control of the children and resorts to that atrocious process of PA (Parental Alienation) to assure they will not desire to recgonize me as their parent (except when the child support check is due) for as long as they represent an income for mommy and a voucher for Federal Funding to the county agencies (ie Title IV-D).
*scratches head*
Huh???
and you WONDER why so many returning veterans are suiciding???
Why shouldn't they?
Their futures have been stripped from them.
Vern Mills
GMG1(SW) USNavy(Ret)
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